A Giuliani spokesman told me this filing is just designed to get to the legal issues of the case. So while this filing may undercut some of the, you know, persistent conspiracy theories about 2020, he's also still saying his speech is protected by the First Amendment. Giuliani is not saying he knew the statements were false at the time or even expressly saying he believes that they're false now. SUMMERS: And Sam, I mean, there's a good deal of legalese in these filings, so I'm hoping you can just cut through some of that for us. GRINGLAS: A lawyer for Moss and Freeman said today that Giuliani's statement affirms that the pair honorably performed their civic duties in the 2020 presidential election. SHAYE MOSS: Telling me that I'll be in jail with my mother and saying things like, be glad it's 2020 and not 1920. Moss said she received threats so intense she had to quit her job. GRINGLAS: That is Freeman, who had to flee her home for safety. RUBY FREEMAN: Do you know how it feels to have the president of the United States to target you? But he targeted me, Lady Ruby, a mother, a proud American citizen who's standing up to help Fulton County run an election in the middle of the pandemic. GRINGLAS: Yep, mother-daughter election workers, Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss - they both testified for the January 6 congressional probe last summer. SUMMERS: And I take it, Sam, the people in that video are the two election workers who are now suing Giuliani. GRINGLAS: Investigators at the time found this claim to be false, but Giuliani and Trump continued to amplify it anyway. Look at them scurrying around with the ballots - nobody in the room, hiding around. RUDY GIULIANI: How can they say there's no fraud? Look at that woman. And he spread this video supposedly showing Fulton County election workers pulling a suitcase of ballots from under a table in Atlanta. Giuliani, at the time, was one of Trump's lawyers who was taking a leading role in this. Trump and his allies were ramping up their campaign to delegitimize the election result. GRINGLAS: Juana, let's go back to December 2020. But first, remind me who these two election workers are and what Giuliani was saying about them. SUMMERS: So Sam, we'll get back to the latest developments in just a minute.
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